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A few weeks ago, the Associated Press reported that the CDC director announced plans to reorganize, probably next year, in addressing their failings with SARS-CoV-2. Thank goodness for that, it was strange for me as a layperson to be maybe even nearly a couple of years ahead of what the the official understanding seemed to be. I'm no expert, I was just reading case reports from American doctors, preprints from SE Asia, etc., but everything further has just confirmed the heart of those earlier indications. The CDC didn't have the WHO's excuse of having to pander to China. I may not be holding my breath but I am glad to see some on-target acknowledgement of a need to improve and intention to put measures in place to achieve that.

Date: 2022-09-12 10:56 pm (UTC)
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I will be surprised if the aim of the restructuring is to improve the communication of risk. It seems to me that they are thoroughly captured by political interests.

Date: 2022-09-13 03:54 am (UTC)
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I too am feeling very pessimistic of what's to come. Biden's "Mission Accomplished" declaration against COVID means that we're all free to behave now as we did before the pandemic. He also announced anti-cancer efforts, but it means nothing because he's spreading SARS-CoV-2 which disrupts the immune system leading potentially to... cancers. I don't think the CDC will change Biden's mind, unless he does a magical 180-degree reversal immediately following good news on the upcoming election. (Which merely confirms that they always knew but chose their messaging based on selfish benefit.)

Date: 2022-09-13 02:14 pm (UTC)
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They were definitely captured and controlled during the early days of Covid and they later tried to fight back against it. I think it's possible the CDC can be reformed - whether or not they will be reformed is another question entirely.

Date: 2022-09-14 11:19 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] aldabra
Yes. They loudly and clearly said plainly wrong things, and insufficiently many people believed them, and they have diagnosed the problem as insufficient loudness and clarity, and also public access to other sources of information. So they're dialling up the loudness and clarity and unanimity of plainly wrong things, and they will be surprised when we listen less.

The Trusted News Initiative, for example, has suppressed various inconvenient viewpoints which turned out to be right. Consequently I trust its sponsors, notably the BBC, way less than I otherwise would. You only get to claim to be trustworthy if you're right.

What I want from public health is precautionary messaging based on current knowledge with acknowledgement of gaps. We don't know yet whether it's airborne; we're looking into it; in the meantime try to stay away from people. What we got was gaslighting. I do not want louder clearer gaslighting.

I wonder whether this is inevitable when optimising-for-the-State leads to different outcomes from optimising-for-the-individual. Eat Out To Help Out was so blatantly putting lives at risk to restart the extractive economy that you have to wonder what the public health messaging was for.

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