For the most part, I do think that the US would be better for having stronger unions than at present, and I agreed with much of the EU labor protection policy that was imposed on unwilling Conservatives, just that what unions say sometimes goes further than I would in protecting employees from accountability. (Basically: I'm with them for quite some distance, just I think they go too far and I wonder if that makes people less willing to hear the good part.) Your mention of the police unions is a good point though, that's probably an exception for me in wanting stronger unions, given the gross lack of accountability they seem to have engendered, coupled with the enormous responsibility they have to act well. Anecdotes about locals' encounters with our city police are not encouraging. Even without guns, cops' word is taken very seriously and goodness knows some sometimes lie, so I would still rather fear their power. To take a simple example, nobody's very surprised if a minor dope offense bumps up to a felony because the weight oddly increased. Or, to take another, a case against a neighbor was dismissed because the cops violated their rights.
A good point about compromise, yes. /-: By instinct I want employers to have plenty of power but then I see the outcome proves me wrong and I have to rethink. None of us get all of what we want and we have to accept that. (See Congress now, heh.)
And, you're right, the cops' perspective is important. They do a difficult and necessary job. I am a big fan of the Victorian model that is far less us-and-them. From a point of ignorance, I wonder if part of the story is that they should be funded to be well enough out in the community (not just peering at it from their cars) so the two sides feel more connected, and if they need incentized better to be available and helpful rather than focusing simply on arrests, convictions, etc. My current sense is that the relationship that cops have with the public is that the cops expect the public to do what they're told without question and the public hopes not to get on their radar at all, I hope I'm wrong in that because that doesn't describe a good relationship.
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Date: 2021-11-28 04:05 pm (UTC)A good point about compromise, yes. /-: By instinct I want employers to have plenty of power but then I see the outcome proves me wrong and I have to rethink. None of us get all of what we want and we have to accept that. (See Congress now, heh.)
And, you're right, the cops' perspective is important. They do a difficult and necessary job. I am a big fan of the Victorian model that is far less us-and-them. From a point of ignorance, I wonder if part of the story is that they should be funded to be well enough out in the community (not just peering at it from their cars) so the two sides feel more connected, and if they need incentized better to be available and helpful rather than focusing simply on arrests, convictions, etc. My current sense is that the relationship that cops have with the public is that the cops expect the public to do what they're told without question and the public hopes not to get on their radar at all, I hope I'm wrong in that because that doesn't describe a good relationship.